Flash rusting?

***Beanie*** · 21st February 2007, 11:23

How long does flash rusting take to occur in cylinders that are being cleaned?

Its probably in Oxy hackers handbook, but I'm not sure where mine is anyone know off hand?

Ta

Retardboy · 21st February 2007, 12:35

Instantly, from what I have seen.But the bloke cleaning the tanks was using compressed air to blow them dry when he had poured out the hot water, and that is kinda feeding the fire... I am going to modify an old valve so that I can invert the tank and fill it with pure nitrogen,argon or something, and have an additional hole for the water to escape through. That way the tank will be completely dry before it has any contact with O2.

***jradomski*** · 21st February 2007, 13:09

Quote: (Originally Posted by Retardboy)

Instantly, from what I have seen.But the bloke cleaning the tanks was using compressed air to blow them dry when he had poured out the hot water, and that is kinda feeding the fire... I am going to modify an old valve so that I can invert the tank and fill it with pure nitrogen,argon or something, and have an additional hole for the water to escape through. That way the tank will be completely dry before it has any contact with O2.

If you use an approved oxygen cleaner like blue gold with a rust inhibitor, Flash rusting is unlikely.. I routinely clean the cylinders then dry them with clean compressed air and never get any flash rust..

If you use something like simple green and other degreasers, they have no rust inhibiting properties and will flash rust the cylinders..

***Beanie*** · 21st February 2007, 13:30

So where can I get blue gold in the uk then?

***jradomski*** · 21st February 2007, 13:51

Quote: (Originally Posted by Beanie)

So where can I get blue gold in the uk then?

I'm not sure.. there are other rust inhibitors as well.. I know global ships worldwide and sells a rust inhibitor..

I suggest you send an email to Untitled Document (the addres is on the ANDI uk web site), they can probably tell you were to get it (they might even stock it)

steevke · 21st February 2007, 15:16

Quote: (Originally Posted by Beanie)

So where can I get blue gold in the uk then?

Blue Gold can not be sold legally in the EU as it contains Nonylphenol ethoxylate, an endocrine disruptor.

Personally I use an approved O2 cleaner (I use Tramos Oxygen Cleaner) and dry the tank with Nitrogen to prevent flash rust.

Steven

***jradomski*** · 21st February 2007, 16:18

Quote: (Originally Posted by steevke)

Blue Gold can not be sold legally in the EU as it contains Nonylphenol ethoxylate, an endocrine disruptor.

Personally I use an approved O2 cleaner (I use Tramos Oxygen Cleaner) and dry the tank with Nitrogen to prevent flash rust.

Steven

Good to know, then a stand alone rust inhibitor is probably the way to go.. It does a good job long term preventing rusting.. I have a set of Faber (at the time sold by scubapro) steel 95s.. They are about 18 years old now and still have never had ANY rust..

***Beanie*** · 21st February 2007, 16:26

Quote: (Originally Posted by steevke)

Blue Gold can not be sold legally in the EU as it contains Nonylphenol ethoxylate, an endocrine disruptor.

Personally I use an approved O2 cleaner (I use Tramos Oxygen Cleaner) and dry the tank with Nitrogen to prevent flash rust.

Steven

They have a UK supplier

***Beanie*** · 21st February 2007, 16:26

Quote: (Originally Posted by jradomski)

Good to know, then a stand alone rust inhibitor is probably the way to go.. It does a good job long term preventing rusting.. I have a set of Faber (at the time sold by scubapro) steel 95s.. They are about 18 years old now and still have never had ANY rust..

anyone know and good rust inhibitors then?

Marc T · 21st February 2007, 16:42

Quote: (Originally Posted by Beanie)

anyone know and good rust inhibitors then?

try here
Corrostop Corrosion Inhibitor http://www.OMSdive.com

21st February 2007, 11:23	#1 (permalink)
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21st February 2007, 12:35	#2 (permalink)
Retardboy New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 16	Re: Flash rusting? Instantly, from what I have seen.But the bloke cleaning the tanks was using compressed air to blow them dry when he had poured out the hot water, and that is kinda feeding the fire... I am going to modify an old valve so that I can invert the tank and fill it with pure nitrogen,argon or something, and have an additional hole for the water to escape through. That way the tank will be completely dry before it has any contact with O2.
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21st February 2007, 13:09	#3 (permalink)
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21st February 2007, 13:51	#5 (permalink)
*jradomski* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Optima rEvo Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: "Da" Bronx Posts: 3,091	Re: Flash rusting? Quote: (Originally Posted by Beanie) So where can I get blue gold in the uk then? I'm not sure.. there are other rust inhibitors as well.. I know global ships worldwide and sells a rust inhibitor.. I suggest you send an email to Untitled Document (the addres is on the ANDI uk web site), they can probably tell you were to get it (they might even stock it) __________________ Joe Radomski CCR Trimix Instructor Trainer ANDI Instructor Trainer Director #10 All posts are personal opinions and DO NOT reflect any affiliated agency unless specifically stated.
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steevke Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 317	Re: Flash rusting? Quote: (Originally Posted by Beanie) So where can I get blue gold in the uk then? Blue Gold can not be sold legally in the EU as it contains Nonylphenol ethoxylate, an endocrine disruptor. Personally I use an approved O2 cleaner (I use Tramos Oxygen Cleaner) and dry the tank with Nitrogen to prevent flash rust. Steven
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21st February 2007, 16:18	#7 (permalink)
*jradomski* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Optima rEvo Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: "Da" Bronx Posts: 3,091	Re: Flash rusting? Quote: (Originally Posted by steevke) Blue Gold can not be sold legally in the EU as it contains Nonylphenol ethoxylate, an endocrine disruptor. Personally I use an approved O2 cleaner (I use Tramos Oxygen Cleaner) and dry the tank with Nitrogen to prevent flash rust. Steven Good to know, then a stand alone rust inhibitor is probably the way to go.. It does a good job long term preventing rusting.. I have a set of Faber (at the time sold by scubapro) steel 95s.. They are about 18 years old now and still have never had ANY rust.. __________________ Joe Radomski CCR Trimix Instructor Trainer ANDI Instructor Trainer Director #10 All posts are personal opinions and DO NOT reflect any affiliated agency unless specifically stated.
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*Beanie* Gallery Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In da house! yeah baby! Posts: 3,291	Re: Flash rusting? Quote: (Originally Posted by steevke) Blue Gold can not be sold legally in the EU as it contains Nonylphenol ethoxylate, an endocrine disruptor. Personally I use an approved O2 cleaner (I use Tramos Oxygen Cleaner) and dry the tank with Nitrogen to prevent flash rust. Steven They have a UK supplier __________________ Beanie Gallery Admin & Library Assistant. www.outlawdivers.org.uk www.beandiving.co.uk www.beanengineering.co.uk
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*Beanie* Gallery Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In da house! yeah baby! Posts: 3,291	Re: Flash rusting? Quote: (Originally Posted by jradomski) Good to know, then a stand alone rust inhibitor is probably the way to go.. It does a good job long term preventing rusting.. I have a set of Faber (at the time sold by scubapro) steel 95s.. They are about 18 years old now and still have never had ANY rust.. anyone know and good rust inhibitors then? __________________ Beanie Gallery Admin & Library Assistant. www.outlawdivers.org.uk www.beandiving.co.uk www.beanengineering.co.uk
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